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$28K vs. $85K — Same Profit, Only One Salary Survives an Audit

Two owners. Same profit: $200,000. Same industry. Same role. Wildly different salaries  and only one of them holds up under scrutiny.

Owner A pays himself $28,000 in salary and takes the rest as distributions. There’s no wage benchmarking behind it, no written analysis, and he hasn’t revisited the number since he incorporated. If asked, he can’t explain how he arrived at $28,000 because he didn’t really arrive at it. He picked it.

Owner B, same profit and same role, pays herself $85,000 based on a documented reasonable compensation analysis that accounts for her duties, her time allocation, and comparable wages in her industry. She reviews it every year and keeps the file current.

The IRS doesn’t ask what you think is fair. It asks what you can prove. Owner B can prove it. Owner A is guessing and guessing is exactly what turns into a reclassification and a back-payroll-tax bill.

The uncomfortable truth here is that the gap between Owner A and Owner B isn’t really about the dollar amount. It’s about whether a number was calculated or just chosen. A defensible $60,000 salary beats an indefensible $85,000 one  the documentation is what protects you, not the size of the number.

CTA: Which one is closer to how you pay yourself right now? If you’re Owner A, this is fixable but it’s much easier to fix before your next filing than after an IRS letter.

What Makes an S Corp Salary Defensible?

Two S Corp owners.

Same industry.

Both businesses generate $200,000 in profit.

Both owners work actively in their companies.

Owner A pays himself a $28,000 salary and takes most of the remaining cash as distributions.

Owner B pays herself $85,000.

Which salary is reasonable?

At first glance, you might be tempted to say Owner B.

But we actually don’t have enough information yet.

And that’s the first lesson.

You cannot determine whether an S Corp salary is reasonable simply by looking at the number.

A $28,000 salary is not automatically unreasonable.

An $85,000 salary is not automatically reasonable.

The real question is what services the owner performs, what those services are worth, and whether the compensation being paid reasonably reflects those facts.

The difference between a strong compensation position and a weak one isn’t simply the size of the paycheck.

It’s whether there is a credible reason behind it.

Owner A: The Salary Was Picked

Let’s look more closely at Owner A.

He pays himself $28,000 annually.

When asked how he arrived at that amount, his explanation is something like:

“My accountant said I needed to put myself on payroll.”

Or:

“I heard S Corp owners should keep their W-2 low.”

Or:

“I figured that was enough salary.”

There was no analysis of the work he actually performs.

No consideration of how many hours he works.

No comparison to what the market pays for similar services.

No evaluation of how much of the company’s revenue comes from his own labor.

He simply picked a number that allowed him to run payroll and take the rest as distributions.

Now suppose Owner A works 50 hours a week, personally performs most of the work the company sells, manages the business, handles sales, and is directly responsible for most of the company’s revenue.

In that situation, the issue isn’t merely that he lacks a document.

The more fundamental question is whether $28,000 reasonably compensates him for the services he is actually performing.

The missing analysis simply makes that question harder to answer.

Owner B: The Salary Was Analyzed

Owner B takes a different approach.

Before settling on $85,000, she looks at what she actually does inside the company.

She considers her responsibilities.

She estimates how her time is divided among those responsibilities.

She looks at credible compensation information for similar work.

She considers her experience and the market in which she operates.

She evaluates how the company generates its revenue and how much depends on her personal services versus employees, systems, capital, or other resources.

Then she documents how those factors led to the compensation she is paying herself.

That is a much stronger process.

But there’s an important caveat:

The existence of the analysis does not automatically make $85,000 correct.

If the data is inappropriate, the assumptions are unrealistic, or the analysis doesn’t reflect what Owner B actually does, the documentation doesn’t rescue the number.

The substance still has to make sense.

That’s why reasonable compensation has two parts:

A supportable conclusion and a supportable process.

You want both.

The IRS Doesn’t Publish a Magic Salary

This is where many S Corp owners get frustrated.

They want the answer to be something like:

“Pay yourself 50% of profit.”

Or:

“Use a 60/40 split.”

Or:

“Once profit reaches $200,000, salary should be at least $80,000.”

There is no universal formula like that.

Reasonable compensation depends on the facts and circumstances surrounding the owner and the business.

Relevant considerations can include the owner’s training and experience, duties and responsibilities, time devoted to the company, what comparable businesses pay for similar services, compensation arrangements, payments to other employees, and how the corporation generates its revenue.

That’s why starting with profit and working backward toward the smallest possible salary is usually the wrong exercise.

Instead of asking:

“How low can I make my salary?”

Start with:

“What work am I actually performing, and what would that work reasonably cost?”

That’s a fundamentally different question.

Start by Breaking Apart Your Job

One reason owner compensation is difficult is that most business owners don’t have one job.

They have several.

Take the owner of a small accounting firm.

During a normal week, she might perform client advisory work, review tax returns, manage employees, interview potential hires, meet with prospective clients, handle major customer issues, review financial results, and make strategic decisions.

Calling her simply “CEO” doesn’t tell you much.

Neither does calling her simply “accountant.”

A better compensation analysis breaks the role into its actual components.

For example, perhaps a hypothetical owner spends:

  • 35% of her time performing professional or technical work
  • 20% managing employees and reviewing their work
  • 20% on sales and business development
  • 15% on administration and operations
  • 10% on executive planning

Now we have something meaningful to evaluate.

We can ask what comparable work pays.

We can consider the value of those different responsibilities.

We can evaluate whether the owner’s current compensation reasonably reflects the job she is actually performing.

That’s considerably more useful than choosing a percentage of profit.

Where Does the Company’s Money Come From?

Another important question is:

What is actually generating the revenue?

Imagine two companies each produce $200,000 of profit.

In the first company, the owner personally performs nearly every service the customers are paying for.

If that owner stops working, revenue largely stops too.

In the second company, ten employees perform most of the client work. The owner manages the organization, oversees strategy, and handles major business-development responsibilities.

Those two owners may both be extremely important to their companies.

But the economics of their businesses are different.

In the first company, a large portion of revenue may be closely connected to the shareholder’s personal services.

In the second, more of the company’s economic output may be generated through employees and the organization itself.

That distinction matters when evaluating reasonable compensation.

And it is another reason profit alone cannot tell you what the salary should be.

Comparable Wages Are Evidence, Not an Answer

Market compensation data can be extremely useful.

But even benchmarking can be misused.

Suppose an owner finds a salary website showing that the average “CEO” in her area earns $90,000.

Does that mean $90,000 is automatically reasonable?

No.

What kind of CEO?

Of what size company?

In what industry?

With what responsibilities?

Working how many hours?

Managing how many people?

Generating revenue in what way?

A CEO running a 50-person organization and a solo consultant who put “CEO” on her business card are not performing the same job.

Good benchmarking requires reasonable comparisons.

The goal is not to find a number on the internet that validates the salary you already wanted.

The goal is to find market information that helps answer what someone performing comparable services would reasonably be paid.

Documentation Matters Because Memory Doesn’t Age Well

Once you’ve done the analysis, write it down.

This is where documentation becomes genuinely valuable.

Imagine trying to explain four years from now why you chose your current salary.

You may remember generally what you were thinking.

But will you remember the compensation source you reviewed?

Your approximate time allocation?

What your responsibilities looked like?

How many employees you had?

What portion of the work you were personally performing?

Probably not.

A compensation file allows you to preserve the facts as they existed when the decision was made.

It might explain your responsibilities, approximate time allocation, relevant market compensation sources, business structure, how revenue is generated, and the reasoning behind the final salary determination.

It doesn’t have to be elaborate just for the sake of being elaborate.

It needs to explain the decision.

Think of the difference this way:

A payroll report tells you:

“We paid the shareholder $85,000.”

A compensation analysis explains:

“Here’s why $85,000 made sense based on the facts we had at the time.”

Those are very different records.

Documentation Is Not a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card

This may be the most important point.

You cannot take an unreasonable salary, create an impressive-looking report around it, and assume the documentation makes the problem disappear.

Suppose Owner B wants to take a $30,000 salary.

She searches through compensation databases until she finds the lowest possible job title.

She understates the hours she spends working.

She ignores the fact that she personally generates most of the company’s revenue.

Then she puts all of that into a beautiful report.

She now has documentation.

She does not necessarily have reasonable compensation.

The analysis needs to follow the facts. The facts shouldn’t be manipulated to produce the desired answer.

That’s why I wouldn’t tell an S Corp owner that documentation “protects” the salary.

Documentation supports the position.

The underlying economic reality is what makes the position credible.

A Higher Salary Isn’t Automatically Safer Either

There’s a flip side to all this.

Some owners become so concerned about reasonable compensation that they assume the answer is simply to pay themselves more.

But that’s not really the objective either.

If $65,000 reasonably reflects the services being performed, choosing $100,000 just because it feels more conservative isn’t necessarily better tax planning.

The goal isn’t:

Lowest salary possible.

And it isn’t:

Highest salary possible.

It’s:

Reasonable compensation for the services actually performed.

That’s the target.

What Happens If the Salary Is Too Low?

This issue matters because S Corp shareholder-employees can’t simply label all money received from the company as distributions when part of those payments reasonably represents compensation for services.

The IRS has authority to reclassify shareholder payments as wages when appropriate.

That can result in employment taxes and potentially related penalties and interest depending on the circumstances.

So a strategy built around “take almost everything as distributions and hope nobody asks” isn’t much of a strategy.

The better approach is to deal with the compensation question before the money is paid.

What Makes a Salary Defensible?

A strong compensation position usually has a consistent story.

The owner can explain what work they perform.

The salary reasonably reflects that work.

Relevant market information supports the conclusion.

The company’s business model and source of revenue were considered.

The methodology wasn’t designed solely to minimize payroll taxes.

And the company has records showing how the conclusion was reached.

None of those items guarantees that another person could never disagree with the exact number.

Reasonable compensation isn’t always that precise.

But there is a major difference between a thoughtful judgment based on real facts and a number someone typed into payroll because it sounded low enough.

Don’t Ask Which Owner Has the Better Number

Let’s go back to Owner A and Owner B.

Owner A makes $28,000.

Owner B makes $85,000.

Which is reasonable?

We still can’t answer that from the numbers alone.

If Owner A works ten hours a week performing limited administrative duties while employees and management run almost everything else, $28,000 might deserve a very different analysis.

If Owner B personally works 70 hours a week producing virtually all of the company’s revenue, perhaps $85,000 deserves another look too.

That’s why the most useful question isn’t:

“Is my salary high enough?”

It’s:

“Can I explain why my salary reasonably reflects the work I actually perform?”

And the answer should involve more than:

“My accountant told me to use it.”

“I’ve always paid myself that.”

“My friend uses the same percentage.”

Or:

“I wanted to maximize distributions.”

A defensible S Corp salary isn’t a number somebody guessed correctly.

It’s the conclusion of a reasonable process applied to the actual facts of the business.

Do the analysis.

Use credible information.

Document the reasoning.

And revisit it when the facts change.

Because the objective isn’t to build a file that makes a bad number look good.

It’s to arrive at a good number—and have the records to explain how you got there.

This article is intended for general educational purposes and is not individualized tax, accounting, payroll, or legal advice. Reasonable compensation depends on the facts and circumstances of the shareholder, the services performed, and the business involved.

 

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